God’s Wisdom VS Man’s Wisdom

Galatians 1:6-12  (KJV)

I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Paul goes into right into the guts of his letter. He is writing to the Galatians because somewhere between his first and second missionary journeys they got off course. It is believed his first two missionary journeys we’re 3 to 4 years apart. From the references that I look at, the first occurred around 48 AD and the second around 51 AD.

In that time, the Judaizers had come in and taught them that the message Paul had preached was not enough for their salvation. Judaizers believed that Old Testament laws, like circumcision, still needed to be observed despite Christ’s atoning sacrifice.  Paul preached a message of grace. His message was that Christ’s sacrifice was enough – no more following of the law was needed.  

He is amazed that after they fervently believed in what he had preached many in the church fell for the false teaching, being deceived.   They believed what Paul called “another gospel”.  It was not the good news he had brought.

I see this still applicable in many churches today. They want us to follow after doctrines that have been passed down from generation to generation. They expect us to put aside the truth of the Gospel message for the message of men.

I have regular email conversations with my brother about having faith in the gospel and having faith in science. He is a firm believer in evolution, global warming, The Big Bang Theory and abortion to name a few. He believes these things because he claims they can be proved. Then he says they are proved by scientific theory.

Theory is defined in the online dictionary this way:

  1. 1.  coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena:
    Einstein’s theory of relativity. Darwins Theory of Evolution 
  2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to  experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

It takes faith to believe those things just as much as it takes faith to believe the gospel.  They are commonly regarded as correct, but not proven correct.

I tell him that he can place his faith in man if he likes to but I would prefer to place my faith in God. He argues with me that he is not placing his faith in man. He is placing his faith in science. I tell him that science is man’s wisdom not God’s wisdom. The Bible is God’s wisdom not man’s. Man’s wisdom is foolishness with God. (1 Cor 3:19)  The Bible tells us the fear of God is the beginning of wisdom (Prov 9:10). Those who do not have the fear of God have a tough time grasping the wisdom of God.

Man finds his own knowledge. They say that their calculations of time and space are completely accurate based on a theory.  But do they know whether time can be sped up in the absence of matter over long distances?  Can they know if time can be expanded? Have they calculated how far and how fast the stars travel away from us?  Can they prove carbon dating is faultless? Could carbon dating speed up faster through time? These are all questions that I have and there are many more. All of these things are based on Theory. Gods ways are high above our, His thoughts beyond what we can think (Is 55:8-9)

The East Coast was supposed to be flooded over by now. But it is not. I believe all the temperature differences are cyclical. This cycle that we are in has happened before. And a cold cycle will come back and then we’ll be threatened by ice. They thought that was going to happen in the 70s (Variations in the Earth’s Orbit: Pacemaker of the Ice Ages)  and many warnings went out. Why do you think the name of the threat was changed from global warming to climate change? So many questions on their theories. The beauty of it is that science is slowly but surely starting to prove the Bible is true.  This will happen more in the future. It’s time for the scientific Community to wake, up not the Christian.

Let me get to the social issues. Man’s Wisdom tells us that abortion is a good thing. It gives a woman Freedom over her own body. Abortion has led to the largest Holocaust in the history of the world. The Nazi Holocaust is now said to have killed around 20 million total.  The US has alone has had over 60 million abortions since Roe vs Wade. Worldwide the number is nearing 1.5 billion  We have lost more than a generation and we wonder why our economy is in trouble.

Abortion also has a negative effect on a majority of those who have them.  A CBS REPORT in 2010 showed that depression, anxiety, health problems, and stress all were symptoms.  Families can break up over this decision.

If you just look at dollars, you will find that this could possible be the number one cause for government debt. Lack of tax payers into the system is now blowing social programs way out of proportion as intended.  It’s incredible when you look at that fact.  When these programs were started, no one saw us killing a generation.  But now many denominations have accepted abortion as something that is okay. Believing man’s Doctrine.

Then they say that same-sex relations don’t hurt anything. How many marriages have been broken up because of same-sex relations? How many have turned to these relationships only because of our unfaithful generation?  How many have gone down the pornographic road and seen what seems like a better lifestyle? How many have turned to this because of abuse during their youth?

The family is the foundation of our society. If the family breaks down, our society will breakdown. Family has been redefined in our day and age. There was no doubt about what a family was only 30 years ago. Now we have all kinds of questions as to what family is. And any kind of family seems to be now acceptable.

God does not say that. That is man’s wisdom. Once again we have substituted man’s wisdom for God’s wisdom. Many churches grabbed onto it and are running headlong into it. We are destroying the fabric of our society in the name of grace and forgetting the weight of truth in God’s word.  See Genesis 19, Leviticus 18:22, Romans 1:21-32, 1 Cor 6:9-10 and 1 Tim 1:8-10  This is sad.

It is incredible to me how the church is being pressured into changing the views on these two subjects. They are threatened because they think the government can take away too much. They have to submit – but doesn’t God supply if we stay faithful? Instead of preaching the true gospel they listen to the pro-choice crowd.  They listen to LBGTQ community.  They are pressed to follow man’s wisdom and not Gods, and they succumb to the blackmail.  Now we have hate crimes!  Crime is crime, no matter who it is done to.  Bullies are bullies no matter who it is done to.  We have made people who live in sin into a protected class.  Right is wrong, and wrong is right.  The church is complicit in all this.  We neglect the truth.

Christians are supposed to be light in a dark world. We are supposed to shine the light onto sin and allow the Holy Spirit to convict of sin, righteousness and judgment. That’s not our job.  All we have to do is deliver the message. The problem is that these groups are listening to the wrong voice when they hear that message. They are listening to the condemning voice of the enemy of their soul instead of the convicting voice of the Holy Spirit. Perhaps we have not spoken the word with love.  Perhaps we have not shown love to them by doing all we can to save them from eternal judgment.  Perhaps we have not shown them how they can be delivered.  

Paul says if anybody preaches any other message then the message of grace that he brought that they are accursed (under a curse). Paul did not preach to please men, as so many do today,  Paul preached to please God. He preached the truth that God had given him.

Paul did not learn his gospel from man and he did not receive it from men. He was taught by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Paul do not go to the school of the disciples in Jerusalem, although he did stay with the disciples in Damascus. They had little bearing on what he preached, though. Jesus was taught the gospel that he brought when spending 40 days in the wilderness. Paul was in the school with the Holy Spirit as well. This is where he got his revelation of grace.  There is more on this in our next lesson

Paul was a student of the Old Testament. He He knew the law as a Pharisee would (Phil 3:5). He was learned in Old Testament laws and their practice. He persecuted the church because he knew of Jesus teachings and how they subverted the law as he understood it. But when Jesus knocked him off that horse and put him in the school of the Holy Spirit, Paul realize that the whole Old Testament was pointing to Jesus all along. And he realized exactly how Jesus fulfilled the law. He knew that Grace was the way the salvation.

But the Galatians that accepted the false doctrines that were being taught to them. The rest of the book will deal with Paul coming against the belief that they had taken up. But first he goes back and shares his credentials and that will be our next lesson.

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11 thoughts on “God’s Wisdom VS Man’s Wisdom

  1. working4christtwo

    quote Galatians 1:6-12 (KJV)
    6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

    7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” end quote

    “The stone that the builders rejected
    has become the cornerstone;
    by the Lord has this been done,
    and it is wonderful in our eyes?”

    Pete my friend, you missing a logical, and a historically provable and Bible supportable fact in this post that is misleading; and not what the Body of the Bible teaches as evidenced by the 5 part series on the Bible & Justification I shared that ended yesterday.

    God in order to BE GOD can have only One set of Faith beliefs. Even God can do no more than this.

    This completely logical and morally essential for God to Be GOD: “ALL GOOD THINGS PERFECTED”

    quote Paul’s Letter to the Galatians

    https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2016/04/letters-to-the-church-pauls-letter-to-the-galatians/

    This is a non-Catholic site

    “When was it written? Uncertain, but likely around A.D. 50. It might be one of Paul’s earliest known letters.” end quotes

    It seems imprudent for non-Catholic Christians to risk salvation on speculation.

    The Bible was fully authored by the end of the 1st Century or VERY early second century.

    The Protestant Reformation did not take place until about 1,500 YEARS later. Check your own history if you doubt this.

    That would mean one of two things {logically and Morally.}
    Either the Bible is wrong or God Lied; so…….

    The ONLY Christian’s to exist until the Great Eastern Schism of 1054 AD, were today’s Roman Catholics; a name that came into existence in the very early 2nd Century. This is provable though secular history, if you’d care to research it, or have me do it for you.

    Could God actually have waited some 1,500 years to introduce HIS Salvation- plans to humanity? ….. That is impossible. There would have been NO REASON at all for the Bible even to have been assembled and written by the Early Catholic Church if it was not to be used and obeyed.
    By the time of Luther’s { an agnostic Catholic Monk} Protestant Reformation; there were already some 200 Catholic Popes in Sucession proven by History:

    Here are the 1st 25 and numbers 176-200 and the site so you can check it out for your self’s.

    The List of Popes
    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm
    1. St. Peter (32-67)
    2. St. Linus (67-76)
    3. St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88)
    4. St. Clement I (88-97)
    5. St. Evaristus (97-105)
    6. St. Alexander I (105-115)
    7. St. Sixtus I (115-125) Also called Xystus I
    8. St. Telesphorus (125-136)
    9. St. Hyginus (136-140)
    10. St. Pius I (140-155)
    11. St. Anicetus (155-166)
    12. St. Soter (166-175)
    13. St. Eleutherius (175-189)
    14. St. Victor I (189-199)
    15. St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
    16. St. Callistus I (217-22) Callistus and the following three popes were opposed by St. Hippolytus, antipope (217-236)
    17. St. Urban I (222-30)
    18. St. Pontain (230-35)
    19. St. Anterus (235-36)
    20. St. Fabian (236-50)
    21. St. Cornelius (251-53) Opposed by Novatian, antipope (251)
    22. St. Lucius I (253-54)
    23. St. Stephen I (254-257)
    24. St. Sixtus II (257-258)
    25. St. Dionysius (260-268)
    26. Celestine III (1191-98)
    27. Innocent III (1198-1216)
    28. Honorius III (1216-27)
    29. Gregory IX (1227-41)
    30. Celestine IV (1241)
    31. Innocent IV (1243-54)
    32. Alexander IV (1254-61)
    33. Urban IV (1261-64)
    34. Clement IV (1265-68)
    35. Blessed Gregory X (1271-76)
    36. Blessed Innocent V (1276)
    37. Adrian V (1276)
    38. John XXI (1276-77)
    39. Nicholas III (1277-80)
    40. Martin IV (1281-85)
    41. Honorius IV (1285-87)
    42. Nicholas IV (1288-92)
    43. St. Celestine V (1294)
    44. Boniface VIII (1294-1303)
    45. Blessed Benedict XI (1303-04)
    46. Clement V (1305-14)
    47. John XXII (1316-34) Opposed by Nicholas V, antipope (1328-1330)
    48. Benedict XII (1334-42)
    49. Clement VI (1342-52)
    50. Innocent VI (1352-62)

    Dear friends; I am NOT in the conversion business. As I have often shared with Pete; Conversions ARE God’s exclusive domain. I AM however in the “business” of defending God’s Truth’s; which logically and morally can be ONLY be singular per defined issue. I am obligated to defend the Catholic Faith Founded Personally by Jesus Christ; logically and morally reasoned as the NT was fully authored by Catholic men; six of whom are Apostles. So unless you’re able to prove that the Apostles were NOT CATHOLICS; this position is indisputable.

    So the Bible is a Catholic Birthed book; originally by Catholics; and at the time of authorship by intent; exclusively FOR Catholics.

    Origin of the term “Catholic” from a non-Catholic site:
    Ignatius of Antioch

    The earliest recorded evidence of the use of the term “Catholic Church” is the Letter to the Smyrnaeans that {Saint}Ignatius of Antioch wrote in about 107 AD to Christians in Smyrna. Exhorting Christians to remain closely united with their bishop, he wrote: “Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.”[12][13][14] …….

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_(term)

    [quote]Galatians 1:6-12 (KJV)end quote

    So Paul. A Convert to Catholicism is waring about others perverting the Roman Catholic Faith.

    [quote=I see this still applicable in many churches today. They want us to follow after doctrines that have been passed down from generation to generation. They expect us to put aside the truth of the Gospel message for the message of men.[/quote]

    This “truth” sadly is NOT God’s TRUTH; but a reinvention by very mortal men like Luther, Calvin, Wycliffe, Ziegler and others; perhaps, well intended; but certainly misguided.

    If these men were right then either GOD or the Bible is wrong; as God to be GOD could not have condemned all of humanity for 1,600 YEARS while He was waiting for Luther and his allies.
    Think about it; Pray about it.

    [quote=Let me get to the social issues. Man’s Wisdom tells us that abortion is a good thing. It gives a woman Freedom over her own body. Abortion has led to the largest Holocaust in the history of the world. The Nazi Holocaust is now said to have killed around 20 million total. The US has alone has had over 60 million abortions since Roe vs Wade. Worldwide the number is nearing 1.5 billion We have lost more than a generation and we wonder why our economy is in trouble.[/quote]

    “The stone that the builders rejected
    has become the cornerstone;
    by the Lord has this been done,
    and it is wonderful in our eyes?”

    On this issue of Abortion WE AGREE.

    Abortion is Murder: the 5th Commandment is “Thou Shalt not kill.”
    No Catholic and NO Christian can in Good conscience Vote for or support in ANY manner any National Candidate of the present National Democratic Party. The Party by Their Choice of Murder and Gay “rights”; LEGISLATED Abortion and Gay [same sex; what we are commanded to term “marriages”; a slap in GOD’s Face.

    May God Guide our paths,
    Patrick

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    1. Pete Post author

      Again, my friend, as we have done before, we butt heads on who the church is. The church is neither Roman Catholic or Protestant, The church is made up of those who place their faith in Jesus Christ. Simple and to the point. Paul was coming against a sect that said circumcision must still be carried out.

      Peter was a Pope before the Catholic Church was even established? That’s ludicrous! How can you have a leader of something that doesn’t even exist? Peter was an apostle of Jesus Christ. He baptized people (not babies)in the Holy Ghost – does the Catholic Church teach that? He spoke in tongues – does the Catholic Church teach that? On the day of Pentecost, Peter said whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved – no mention of works – does the Catholic Church teach that?

      And God did not wait 1500 years to reveal His salvation plan to man. They were revealed by first Jesus – You must be born again, and then by Paul – For by grace are you saved through faith,m and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God. These verses reveal God’s salvation plan. The Catholic Church hid these verses amidst their ceremony for 1500 years until Luther brought them out.

      I have to quit there. My eyesight is getting tired this evening or I could go on for a long time. I can;t see what I am typing unfortunately.

      We have been back and forth on the issues on email and comments before. I hope we can continue to learn from each other.

      Be blessed, my friend.

      Y

      I’m sorry, but the Catholic Church is NOT THE CHURCH! The CHURCH is the body of believers.

      If you believe the Catholic Church is the only true Church, then you condemn all non-Catholics to hell.

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  2. working4christtwo

    quote Again, my friend, as we have done before, we butt heads on who the church is. The church is neither Roman Catholic or Protestant, The church is made up of those who place their faith in Jesus Christ. Simple and to the point. Paul was coming against a sect that said circumcision must still be carried out. End quote

    Pete, I don’t view it as “Butting Heads”; rather we hold to obviously different bible understanding and faith beliefs. Mine are about 1,500 years Newer than yours.

    quote Peter was a Pope before the Catholic Church was even established? End quote

    Peter, I too am very tired and I’m not sure I can make it through all this; though with God’s help I shall try.

    That’s ludicrous! How can you have a leader of something that doesn’t even exist? Peter was an apostle of Jesus Christ. He baptized people (not babies)in the Holy Ghost – does the Catholic Church teach that?

    Astute observation; and REALLY cute too.

    Being the Bible expert that YOU ARE; you already know the answer. Their -continues very much debate about the actual DATES of Christ Birth and Death; [a variance of several years should be expected as there are NO actual TIME records of the period]; our calendar would not come into existence for hundreds of years yet [and the Jewish calendar is not thought to be completely accurate. So THANKS for the chide; nice try though.

    quote He spoke in tongues – does the Catholic Church teach that? On the day of Pentecost, Peter said whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved – no mention of works – does the Catholic Church teach that? End quote

    Trying to change the topic Pete; again nice try; but I’m not biting {if you desire a separate discussion on this topic let me know; I will be happy to get into it.

    [quote] And God did not wait 1500 years to reveal His salvation plan to man. They were revealed by first Jesus – You must be born again, and then by Paul – For by grace are you saved through faith,m and that not of yourself, it is the gift of God. These verses reveal God’s salvation plan. The Catholic Church hid these verses amidst their ceremony for 1500 years until Luther brought them out. End quote

    You’re partly right {and party-correct too.}

    Jesus Christ; GOD did reveal HIS plans and commands for man’s salvation some 1,500 years BEFORE the Protestant Reformation; SO THE REAL QUESTIONS IS: Why did Luther and his disciples choose to CHANGE THEM and on what provable grounds. FOR YOU TO BE RIGHT; much less “correct”; EITHER THE BIBLE IS WRONG; OR CHRIST & His RCC INTERPETED THE BIBLE IN -CORRECTLY [which cannot be proven by the bible THOUGH the FACT that the RCC got it correctly is biblically provable]; or God lied; so which is it my friend?

    quote I have to quit there. My eyesight is getting tired this evening or I could go on for a long time. I can;t see what I am typing unfortunately.

    We have been back and forth on the issues on email and comments before. I hope we can continue to learn from each other.
    Be blessed, my friend. End quote

    Thanks for the break dear friend Pete, I needed it too.

    quote Y
    I’m sorry, but the Catholic Church is NOT THE CHURCH! The CHURCH is the body of believers. End quote

    I can understand {even as din-witted as I am} WHY you MUST hold that view; but cannot grasp the biblical foundation for it: Tell me my friend; what is it that I get wrong: The Bible was fully authored by the end of the 1st century or very early second century; when the ONLY Christians to exist on planet earth were today’s Catholics, which I proved historically for you. So what am I missing Pete?

    quote If you believe the Catholic Church is the only true Church, then you condemn all non-Catholics to hell end quote

    Pete; that is demagoguery, uncharitable and very much out of character for you. I’ll credit to your being so tired. It is an UNTRUE statement; NOT a teaching of the RCC as articulated in our Catechism; numbers 1260, 846, 847, & 848. Here’s the site so you can look them up, but I have culled and shared them with you in our past-E-Mail dialogs; and will so again if you wish me to? http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

    May God guide our path to HIS Truths,

    Prayers and Blessings my friend,
    Patrick

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    1. Pete Post author

      I have been reading a little this morning and came across some interesting things. I would guess all of these are disputed in your Catholic Catechism and will be disputed in any RCC reference.

      First, When Christ told Peter “Upon this rock I will build my church” there are many theological debates over the true meaning of this passage. You say the Catholic Church Has the Truth – Peter was the first and foremost leader of the Church and would be regarded as the foundation of what would eventually become the Catholic Church. I and many other biblical scholars disagree with that. There are several views of what this wording means. To say that the RCC is right and all else is wrong seems a bit arrogant to me. Christ could have meant aht that profession of who Jesus is was the implication of the word Rock, some would say Jesus was that Rock, and others would say Peter was, but not as head of an eventual multinational church – only as the one who would get the ball rolling. Yes, there can only be one Truth – I completely agree on that. Pilate asked the right question!

      Second, Peter did not start the Catholic Church. He was a leader in the early Christian church, which at that time was not Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Lutheran or any other denomination. It was a unified church based on accepting the sacrificial atonement of Jesus Christ by simply calling on His name. That Peter was later “Named” to be the first Pope does not change this fact.

      Third, Paul did was not a part of the Catholic Church. He was a member of the Christian Church, the same Church as Peter. There was no Catholic, Baptist, etc.

      The Christian Church was “taken over” by Constantine when he saw all the infighting going on within the church. and wanted to unify the church. This was destabilizing and Constantine wanted to impose a Unified Theology so He forced the adoption of the Nicene Creed in 325 AD. This became the official core of the Church in 381 AD. I tried looking back through your notes because some where I thought you said that RCC was started in 107 AD. I can find no such date on any web sites that I have looked at.

      You claim that the RCC has all the truth, and that it is indisputable. I believe God would argue with you on that. He holds all truth. He is TRUTH. This next thought would probably never enter your process, but what if the RCC got it wrong? Then their Truth would be wrong. Darwin was see as truth, but he got it wrong. Down through the ages, there have been thousands who thought they had it right and got it wrong. Over 2,000 years of history does not prove to me that they have truth just because they say they do, and they wrote the book (or interpreted it would be more accurate). The way I see it is that they withheld the truth to favor their doctrine. They crafted their theology and imposed it on the churches at the time. While this unified the churches, it still does not mean that it was Truth.

      We will go back and forth on this fr a long time, I am sure. I love you, my brother and respect your zeal and passion for your beloved RCC Church. It is commendable.

      I also ask your forgiveness for my poorly stated remarks at the end of my last comment. You are right, that was not appropriate. I looked back on our discussion, and I do see where you stated that the RCC position is that (quote) “non-Catholics and perhaps even non-Christians might gain conditional access to heaven, perhaps through purgatory.” (end quote). At least you give us some hope.

      On the other hand, I stand firmly with the Hope of heaven as I know I have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord of my life, and have accepted His atoning sacrifice for the remission of my sins. I follow His commands and do what he asks me to do. I have no doubt about entering heaven one day. A day that I feel is not far away. I believe their are thousands upon thousands of non-Catholics in the same place. We will not be conditionally accepted and waiting in Purgatory (I’m not even sure where that term comes from).

      All for now – heading to a leadership ministry conference today. Friends I have’t seen for 2 years during this cancer battle. I am so excited to be able to go!

      be blessed, my friend.

      Pete

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  3. Freedomborn ... Aussie Christian Focus

    Yes it’s True Peter the first Church was called Catholic which meant Universal, Christians met everyday in their homes to Worship and break bread and they than went to the Temple to hear the Scriptures. The Roman Catholic Church was established later by Constantine to save Christians from being put to death but it included Paganism in it’s Teaching and sadly it still does today.

    (All Scripture is from the KJV.)

    As you shared Peter, Jesus was saying that God’s Church would be built on what the Apostle Peter said which was… Jesus is the Rock (see Scripture below) not on Peter. Jesus is The Head of The Church not a Man and we are the Body of Christ, His Church which is of the Heart. Peter, Paul, the other Apostles, all the Popes and all of us today too are under Jesus’ Authority and He leads us into all Truth being our only Spiritual Teacher. We share His Truth not Worldly Mankinds this is why we are to ask for God’s Wisdom (Proverbs 4:7- James 1:5-7- Colossians 2:2-3) and the Holy Spirits Empowering which none of us were Born with so we all lack them ( Luke 11:13 -1Corinthians2:9-16) because as you said Peter we are not to depend on fleshy or Worldly wisdom or are we to walk in the Carnal flesh, we put it to death by The Spirit. (Romans 8)

    Deuteronomy 32:3-5 Because I will publish the Name of the LORD, ascribe ye greatness unto our God. He is the Rock, His work is Perfect for all His ways are judgment a God of Truth and without iniquity, Just and Right is He.

    Romans 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and Rock of offence and whosoever believeth on Him shall not be ashamed.

    1 Corinthians 10:3-5 And did all eat the same Spiritual Meat; And did all drink the same Spiritual drink for they drank of that Spiritual Rock that followed them and that Rock was Christ.

    Yes Peter very True, Salvation is a free gift that we can’t earn but we will show we have it as confirmed in the Scriptures below, we are to keep the Spiritual Law which is to Love and Love does not Sin….

    Romans 3:30-31 Seeing it is one God which shall justify the circumcision by Faith and uncircumcision through Faith. Do we then make void the Law through Faith? God forbid: yea we establish the Law.

    1John 3:4- 7 Everyone who Sins breaks the Law in fact Sin is lawlessness. But you know that He appeared so that He might take away our Sins. And in Him is no Sin. No one who lives in Him keeps on Sinning. No one who continues to Sin has either seen Him or known Him. Dear Children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is Right is Righteous just as He is Righteous.

    1 John 2:4-6 He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His Commandments is a liar and the Truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth His Word in him verily is the Love of God Perfected hereby know we that we are in Him. He that saith he abideth in Him ought himself also so to Walk even as He Walked.

    Romans 6 :1- 2 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in Sin that Grace may abound? God forbid how shall we that are dead to Sin live any longer therein?

    Titus 2:11-12 For the Grace of God that bringeth Salvation hath appeared to all Men, Teaching us that denying ungodliness and worldly lusts we should live Soberly, Righteously and Godly in this present World;

    Do we allow those in the Church to continue to Sin and not warn them, No God tells us to rebuke them because it is not Love to allow Satan to get a foothold in their lives but we don’t judge others in the flesh critically without Love , by our own fleshy Agenda or we are judging ourselves or do we critically judge their weaknesses and shortcomings , we have our own. We also don’t judge their Eternal Destiny, we don’t know their Heart only God does, they may come to Heart Repentance on their deathbed from the good seeds that have been planted during their life, yes like the Man who confessed on the Cross next to Jesus, they will escape the fire and go to Heaven but they won’t have any rewards.

    God tells us to Rebuke Sin, Correct error and Warn of danger but with His Truth not with worldly understanding but you can be sure it will not always be appreciated but to be Perfected in His Love it is needed, we only have to read what happens when we have Holy Communion if we are Sinning.

    2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is given by Inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine, for Reproof, for Correction, for Instruction in Righteousness: That the Man of God may be Perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all Good Works.

    Colossians 1:27-29 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles which is Christ in you the Hope of Glory. Whom we preach warning every Man and teaching every Man in all Wisdom that we may present every Man Perfect in Christ Jesus.

    “Christ”ian Love Always – Anne.

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    1. Pete Post author

      Thank you for your well thought-out comment. I love the fact that we can use this platform to share the gospel Jesus Christ with all different people. May you be blessed as you serve our Lord

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    2. Pete Post author

      I must be missing something, because I see nowhere in scripture the words Universal Church. The word for church is “ekklesia” which means “a calling out”. It defines those who have accepted the sacrifice of Christ on the cross. Where exactly is the word Catholic, or Universal” used?

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      1. Freedomborn ... Aussie Christian Focus

        Sorry Pete I should have worded it differently but with my being Dyslectic I make these types of mistakes at times, so Thank you for bringing it to my attention and also for your Encouragement and yes it is indeed a privilege to be able to share God’s Truth and our Eternal Hope in Christ Jesus whenever and wherever God calls us to do so.

        The Name Catholic which has nothing to do with the Roman Catholic Church is not itself recorded in Scripture as such but it means Universal and this is in reference to God’s Church which is World wide and of the Heart not just a Denomination or House Church. The Scripture below confirms that when Jesus returns for us everyone from every Nation around the World will be brought to Him and yes it’s not far away, as soon as the Prophesies that are recorded would happen before the Rapture which is called the First Sickle in Revelation, have been fulfilled and yes we can indeed see the Signs that they are now happening, Jesus will return for His Church.

        Matthew 25 : 31-40 When the Son of Man shall come in His Glory and all the Holy Angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the Throne of His Glory. And before Him shall be gathered all Nations and He shall separate them one from another as a Shepherd divideth his Sheep from the goats. And He shall set the Sheep on His right hand but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on His right hand; Come, ye Blessed of my Father inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was an hungred and ye gave Me meat, I was thirsty and ye gave Me drink, I was a stranger and ye took Me in. Naked and ye clothed Me, I was sick and ye visited Me, I was in Prison and ye came unto Me. Then shall the Righteous answer Him saying; Lord when saw we thee an hungred and fed thee? or thirsty and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger and took thee in? or naked and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick or in prison and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my Brethren ye have done it unto Me.

        Then shall He say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels; For I was an hungred and ye gave Me no meat, I was thirsty and ye gave Me no drink, I was a stranger and ye took Me not in, naked and ye clothed Me not, sick and in prison and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer Him saying; Lord when saw we Thee an hungred or athirst or a stranger or naked or sick or in Prison and did not minister unto Thee?Then shall He answer them saying; Verily I say unto you inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these ye did it not to Me. And these shall go away into Everlasting Punishment but the Righteous into Life Eternal.

        James 2:18 Even so Faith if it hath not Works is dead being alone. Yea a Man may say; Thou hast Faith and I have Works, shew me thy Faith without thy Works and I will shew thee my Faith by my Works.

        Christian Love Always – Anne ( Grannie Annie)

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  4. davidallport

    Pete, very insightful dissertation. I was especially taken by the fact that you pointed out we lost a generation to abortion. A whole lot of people that could have productive members of society. Also I was glad you pointed out your discussions with your brother. Just as Paul by revelation came to faith in Jesus Christ, so you and I can be so very thankful that HE choose to include us in His wonderful family… ecclesia …. The called out ones…. called out of darkness to walk in His beloved light.

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